The Xtra Time Podcast- Zac Boster

The Xtra Time Podcast by Xavier Sanchez welcomes Zac Boster to the show.

Boster is thriving in the basketball world as a player development coach. He shares exactly what that is and how important it is to be adaptable in today's game. He also chats about working with players at all levels and forming bonds, learning from the likes of Kobe Bryant and much more in this episode.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Extra Time Podcast. I'm your host, Xavier Sanchez. Today's interview is the third and final interview that I previously recorded in early 2025. Today's guest I learned about a few years back, and I would later meet him at the Max Struce basketball camp. Struce is just one of the many talented players he's had the pleasure to work with, many of which are not just in the NBA, but leagues across the globe. Over the last decade or so, he shaped and improved the game's next generation as a basketball coach and as a player development coach. Sit back, relax, and enjoy episodes three, interview of Zach Boaster. Thanks for coming on the show, Zach Boaster. Uh excited to have you. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_01 0:47

I'm doing well, man. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Uh I I just recently s saw that you're out of uh town in New Zealand. What's it like to be uh traveling to connect with some of these clients? I know it's been you've been able to see quite a lot.

unknown 1:03

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Uh was super fortunate to get out of the country for a few days uh and visit some of the guys that I work with out of New Zealand, Taco Fall, and Matt Mooney, who I think you've maybe spoke with Matt before, connected with him. Um, you know, uh just uh was able to get out there for ten days. Uh it's my first time out of the country, actually, so kind of a cool experience. Not too crazy, obviously, because you know, New Zealand they speak English and all that. Um, so it wasn't like a big culture shock or anything like that, but obviously super grateful and um it was fun to catch two games and spend some time with those guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Before we talk more about the different players you work with, um for those that aren't too familiar, um a lot of the places that r have uh like on your social handles and then on Matt's website, you describe yourself as a player development coach. Um in this space, uh you see online all the jokes about these different trainers and different people and what they do and what they're not doing. What is it to you that is a player development coach?

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Yeah, it's a good question, man. I think a player development coach is somebody that uh tries to bridge the gap between uh, you know, individual skill set and uh team strategy and concepts. Uh I think at times um there are people that try to kind of separate those two things. To me, uh it almost needs to be one and the same uh to kind of have that wholesale approach. So at this point in time, and you know, I'm far from a perfect product or anything like that, but uh what I try to do is I try to help guys um develop to you know be winning basketball players. Um and what I've tried to do really is just uh cultivate really an environment uh where guys can come and and get those opportunities to compete and and learn and get better. Um so particularly with the high school group and the college group that I currently have, I think that's kind of been the best thing we've been able to do is just get a bunch of good people and good players together to compete and kind of grow together. Um but to me to answer the original question, a player development coach is somebody that can, you know, watch watch tape with you, sit down, help you with your individual game, but also uh looks at you know things through a wholesale approach and doesn't beer off the path of like what you need to be able to do within the confines of your offensive and defensive system uh within the team within a team standpoint.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Yeah, that's one of the things uh since getting to know you and seeing what you do, I think what's been pretty cool to watch is uh a lot of a lot of these guys in like uh I being able to learn about the basketbase and stuff, everyone wants to get go straight to like the pros and like seeing what they do, but you've been able to work with uh the kids in high school, the college kids and and the people in the pros, but you get to see uh that growth and you stick with a lot of these guys so you can see how it's evolved over the the time that they're in high school, and then once they ex excel through the years of college.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Yeah, no doubt, and that's uh something that you know I think is relatively unique in the space. I I've I've been very fortunate, like you said, to work with a lot of not only good good players, but good people, um people that have you know stuck with me throughout the years, and I think that's a testament, like I said, um just to the environment and uh you know the uh the space that we've kind of created for guys to come home um in the summers and and and get better. So um yeah, I definitely think it's a little bit unique, but um it's something that I love, man. I mean, I love working with the guys that I have, you know. I'm I'm very uh content with what we're doing, not that not to say that I'm getting complacent or anything like that. I'm always trying to, you know, kind of be uh progressive and and you know uh adaptable and you know, always uh, you know, very grateful for any new opportunities that I can get in terms of clientele and and things like that. But um to me, like being able to work with guys for a consistent period of time um and kind of see that growth, like you said, uh means more to me than than really anything.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

So for those that are listening, uh Zach played high school basketball, had a decent amount of success team-wise, winning a ri two regionals, and then uh being one of the all-area, all-conference, and a really strong three-point shooter. He ch he opted when he went to college to work with the Illinois State team and be a scout player, and at that point he pivoted away from being a on the court to uh helping players, and this is the beginning of the development. Can you talk about um you know s ending stopping playing sports is a uh hard transition for a lot of people? Tell me about that transition for you and what you how that you went from being a player to now getting that first guy that you got to work with and what you learned in that initial process.

SPEAKER_01 6:23

Yeah, so for me initially it was just uh trying to find ways to stay in the gym, man. I always like when I was playing, I wasn't the world's best player by any means or anything like that. Uh, but one thing that I always enjoyed was was being in the gym and and working hard and uh trying to find different ways to get better. And I didn't grow up with like a trainer or anything like that. Um my dad was a football player, he he didn't really have a whole uh uh a great idea of you know what he was doing as far as basketball is concerned. Um so I didn't really have anybody outside of just like my high school coaches um helping me. So I did a lot of this stuff on my own. So initially, like I said, it was just trying to find ways to uh stay in the gym. And you know, at the time when I first started, you know, kind of working with guys on the court, I didn't really know that it was gonna be something that I could ultimately uh you know, do full time or as a career. Um but yeah, it just kind of started as a way for me to continue to be in the gym and I fell in love with helping people um improve and you know now I would say that uh for me it's even uh better than, you know, what I was doing for myself when I played. I really uh enjoy seeing other people succeed more than I did even myself, which is maybe crazy to say, but it's the truth.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

Yeah, I think that's uh pretty cool to find someone who cares uh about others, not on like uh like a fake level and like truly wants to see them exceed. And um one of those initial guys you got to work with, you know him better than me, so I'm I don't want to butcher his name, was uh Bates Diap. How I understand that he he was he he's from kind of where you went to college, so how'd your path cross?

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Yeah, so Kada and I uh were initially connected um through actually my old high school assistant coach who was coaching with the Illinois Wolves at the time. Uh Kata played for the Illinois Wolves, which is, you know, in my opinion, I'm a little bit biased. I work with a lot of guys that come from that program, but in my opinion, it's the best AAU program in the state of Illinois. Um and yeah, like you said, Cada went to high school right down the street from Illinois State where I went to college, and we probably committed a bunch of uh NCAA violations. Hopefully this you know doesn't go too far or anything like that. But like we were working out um in the in the facilities over there. I go to his high school gym. You know, we were we were just like, I didn't know what I was doing, man, at the time. I look back and you know, some of the stuff we were doing was maybe a little bit ridiculous and you know, it doesn't really directly transfer to the game and stuff like that, you know, maybe some two-ball and some crazy drills that I'm not doing anymore. But you know, Cato was a worker, uh, he was one of the best players in the state already when I started working with him, so I kind of lucked out. Um, but yeah, that was like basically the first guy that I started um working out on the court as far as high schoolers go.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

You talk about like kind of not really knowing what you're doing in the beginning, kind of s going from what you learned for yourself and then from previous coaches. Uh you know, I read about you working with uh the Crystal Lake Central coach Rich Ceslowski, who worked with with Pierce Sweat, who Pierce Sweat is uh another notable trainer and Drew Hanling. Uh talk about being able to take like create these new opportunities for yourself and what you've been able to learn in each of those. What are some of those other things that um you learn in those moments that you're trying to instill to this day? And how do you stay fresh where you're not getting, as you said, complacent?

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Yeah, so going back to um you know the pure sweat stuff, like super grateful for all the opportunities that I got through those guys. Drew Hanlon, like you said, is one of the best in the world, um, works with some of the best players in the world, and you know, I truly believe he's he's absolutely one of the best um in the in the industry in the space.

unknown 10:42

And I learned a ton from Drew, man.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

I mean, as far as uh how to uh you know, kind of step by step break down a skill and uh and really teach. Uh he's elite. Um so I took a lot from him. And then I would say for today, man, like I'm I'm always trying to go to practices. Even when I was uh kind of on vacation out in New Zealand, I went to practice every day with Matt and Taco.

unknown 11:08

Um, you know, definitely took some stuff away from from those guys on the New Zealand Breaker staff.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Um I've been able to, you know, go to all these practices, learn from all these guys, Coach Collins at Northwestern, Drew Valentine, uh at Loyola, uh the new staff over at UIC Esign. Like I'm I'm always going to practices DePaul. They're, you know, Coach Holman's doing a great job. Uh they were nice enough to have us in the gym this summer. So I'm always trying to go into practices and ask questions and watch. You know, I just love I just love ball, man. So um it's a little bit of that. And then for me, the biggest thing that I do really is I just watch the game. You know, I I try to pay attention, I try to stay on the cutting edge, so to speak. Um, you know, uh a saying that I think I stole from somebody, I can't remember who, uh, so I apologize, but uh a saying that I've I've come to kind of appreciate is uh you know, you want to be stubborn in your goals, but progressive in your methods. Um so like, you know, the the definition of insanity is trying to do the same thing over and over and over again uh without getting any results, hoping that you one day will. So um if something's not working, I'm not afraid to tinker and try new things out. I think that's maybe kind of the advantage I have as like uh more of a uh a consultant and private uh coach, right?

unknown 12:28

For individuals. Um, you know, there's not as much pressure on me to like win and stuff like that when you're you know when you're training players, although that is something that I take pride in.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

Um and you know, we've been fortunate to have a lot of guys that have gone on and won at a really high level, too. Um but yeah, to answer the original question, it's it's a combination of of learning from people that were gracious enough to give me opportunities to spend time around them.

unknown 12:53

Um and and really just, you know, I watch a ton of basketball.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

It's uh it's probably like a little embarrassing, but I watch a lot of basketball.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Well one of the things you said there actually is a big one for me is the one about like you you you a person like repeating the same thing and expecting something to change. Uh you ha you're if you expect a change, something's gonna have to change in that. Uh and that's something I apply in this like my day-to-day. Uh and I tell others the same. Well uh well one of the things uh that I with you learning from all these different areas is with the range of people you have, you're not although basketball is so similar uh uh across levels, you're you're not just working with uh the high school, college, and pros. Some of these pros play in other areas, so there's different elements that you've been able to take away. What's been something that you've seen um that's maybe done uh more often on the foreign level that maybe you think should be brought back here? Or if something that's done there that maybe should be gone completely?

SPEAKER_01 14:07

It's an interesting question. Um there's probably a lot of things, but you know, I'll answer it uh, you know, hopefully relatively simply and you know, keep it short and sweet. Um but I think people say this all the time, and there's a certain extent of truth behind it. You know, people say that like things start in Europe and then two, three years later they make their way back over to the States. Um I believe that there definitely is some truth to that. Uh one thing that I've been kind of seeing a lot in the NBA, more so um, you know, than maybe in years past, is like a kind of a commitment to cut the corner on middle drives, uh, which is something that I saw first, maybe like, I mean, it's been going on forever in Europe. Um, but there's a lot more cutting to kind of create spot up shooting opportunities, uh, I think in the NBA, maybe than in years past. I I could be wrong on that, but um, like definitely Memphis and even Cleveland, um, they're doing a good bit of that if you watch those games. Like, Memphis really uh isn't even really using a ton of on-ball screens, which uh, you know, has kind of been like the bread and butter behind most NBA offenses uh over the last few years, and you know, I don't know the exact numbers, but I believe they're towards the top of the league in offensive efficiency, and it's it's because the majority of what they're getting offensively is uh you know, those spot up uh opportunities, those those opportunities in transition. Um they're creating, you know, catch-and-shoot opportunities, they're creating opportunities to uh drive closeouts, get to the rim, uh, get to the rim early in transition. So I'm kind of rambling here, but I would say like the cutting stuff uh I've noticed has kind of transferred uh over here uh over the last few years. I don't know. Does that answer the question?

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Yeah, yeah. No, I think I I s I can't I'm visualizing it a little bit too. Um in the especially when I'm out there watching games, I you know, sometimes people are so stagnant. A little bit of shakeup, I think needs to be adjusted. Um in this space, I uh my favorite thing about basketball, uh, you know, or lucky to have such great talent here and great opportunity, is being able to the people you get to meet and the experiences you get to have. Um one that I was able to read about you was um getting the help out at this mom at the Mama Sports Academy and crossing paths with Kobe. What can you share from that experience? Was there anything uh that you remember sticking out?

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Yeah, so I'll tell you um a story about the first day uh that I I met Kobe and the girls. Uh, you know, a good friend of mine, Alex Bazell, who's uh uh now doing a great job.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

I don't know if you've you've probably heard of Unrivaled.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Unrivaled, yeah. So super proud of him and my guy, Luke Cooper, um, and Alex's wife, Nafisa Collier, who's kind of been at the forefront of building that league.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Had a great game this weekend. Yeah, she had a great game this weekend.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

But because of Alex and Nafisa, I was able to um, you know, kind of be a part of helping Kobe and the girls. Uh, and that first weekend that we met Kobe, man, long story short, he called Alex up after watching Alex work with Nafisa and asked if he would come out um and put the girls through like a three-day uh you know hell weekend, I think was the term that he used. And basically what it entailed was uh Alex and I and a couple other guys uh that Alex you know invited to come and help uh put the girls through uh I believe it was three two-hour long skill sessions for three straight days. Um and at the end of the first day, you know, I maybe spent, I don't know, five minutes in total uh actually interacting with Kobe.

unknown 18:06

And um at the end of the day, man, I I'll always remember this.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

I was I was walking out of the gym, and you know, I said, hey, Kobe, you know, thanks again, I'll see you tomorrow, or something like that. And Kobe, that's it, it sounds it's kind of silly, but Kobe immediately was like, All right, Zach, I'll see you tomorrow. And like that was like a for me to just know that like Kobe Bryant, like somebody that I uh looked up to uh as a player, you know, and I never thought that I would ever meet the guy. Like he remembered my name after maybe interacting with me, like I said, for like five minutes. That was like that really stood out to me. And that's the type of guy that Kobe was, um, based on my interactions with him. Uh he was a guy that, man, when you when you spoke to him, he really he was really locked in. And I mean, there was no reason for him to be locked in uh on a conversation with me, like I'm a relative nobody.

unknown 19:01

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Like he's Kobe Bryant.

unknown 19:04

Um, but he was always just so uh engaging, and you know, that just is something that I'll always remember.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

The guy like, you know, remembered my name. I can uh unfortunately you know, I've tried to like take away from that and become better myself, but man, I still have a hard time remembering people's names. And I mean, we're talking about a guy that probably meets, you know, uh and and forgets about more people than he meets, you know. Um so for him to uh take the time and really engage in in conversations with me over the course of my time, uh, you know, kind of being able to help and get to know him, like, you know, I'll I'll forever be eternally grateful and um you know, such a tragedy, obviously, that they're gone, but um, you know, just an awesome opportunity again to to learn and grow and and uh you know, really from one of the best of all time, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

So, uh yeah, no, that's special. And it's those are the kinds of people that it's cool to come across because there's there's a lot of people in this space that they have a lot less success and they'll they'll shun you off so quickly. Yet here's a guy who's had all the world success, who's takes the time to register in your his mind. Oh, this is Zach, he's working with us. When when when I say goodbye, I'm gonna remember to say his name. Uh I wouldn't have been in shows myself. Um one of the things that I have here was um you have um you try to have like projects that you try each each go-around. It what's kind of been a project area of focus, maybe right now or coming up?

unknown 20:45

Uh right now for me it's pretty simple.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

I mean, I'm just watching as much as I can of the guys that I work with, and you know, I still try to even watch games uh of teams and watch things from players that I I don't work with, just to kind of you know continue to, like I said, stay on the cutting edge, uh, so to speak, of things. And, you know, I enjoy watching basketball too, so there's definitely a component of that as well. Um, but anyway, right now, I mean, it's really about just uh keeping tabs on the guys that I work with at the mainly at the collegiate and professional level. Um, and you know, right now I'm I'm already kind of thinking towards uh the spring for my high school kids and um you know the college guys kind of trickle back in uh shortly then after that. So it's it's uh developing um you know individual plans and then like group plans for for all of our stuff and spring and the summer uh for players at all levels, and that's really what I'm kind of focused on right now.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

I don't want to hold you too long, but I have uh two questions here. Um you know, with with that summer ramping up, how often do you kind of get um multiple guys in together? You know, there's there's people who get one on ones, two on one sessions, but How beneficial has it been being able to I know you get a chance to have them, but having where it's uh multiple guys in the gym um at various levels. I know you've had a couple high school kids getting a chance to work some of the college guys. Uh wh when I saw met you that first time, Max was there, but you were having some of the younger guys, maybe not always necessarily some of the players you're training, but other young guys who want to do what you're doing, uh helping with the ball handling, helping passing, rebounds, those moments are just as key because they're seeing how these things are done.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

Yep. Yeah, so great question. Um so what you're asking, X, is you know, like how much are we doing individual and how much are we doing group?

unknown 22:43

Is that the question? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so for high school and college guys, I mean, really, we try to do as much uh group stuff as we possibly can.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

I would say like on the low end, uh, those guys are going two to three days a week with me. On the high end, uh for certain guys, they're going, you know, five to six. What we try to do, man, is we try to do it with those guys uh three days a week. We offer uh large group sessions, and to me, those are, like I said, the most critical and the most important. Uh, because at the end of the day, you know, basketball is a game that's played with nine other people on the floor. Um, so it's it's a lot of conceptual uh stuff that we're doing that you need bodies, like you need to implement bodies into the equation to make things realistic. Um so we're like big believers in bones over cones. Uh you're not gonna see a whole lot of like, you know, uh gimmicky drills or anything like that. We're working on game skills uh and we're trying to um, you know, kind of usher players into situations where they can uh make mistakes, quite frankly, and do that against live defense. And what I found is uh, you know, I can't personally, you know, I was never the world's best defender or anything like that, but I'm uh, you know, I'm I'm six foot and maybe have like a negative length span, maybe not the fastest guy in the world or anything like that. So what I found is, man, I mean, uh instead of having a bunch of interns and stuff like this, uh guys like that chasing players around, which you know, we still do on certain days, and especially for the older guys that are doing more individual stuff, but uh I have the high school and college guys, you know, pretty much exclusively work out together. Um and I mean sometimes, man, we've got upwards of 12 guys in a group, and it's guards, wings, bigs, um, you know, all working together against one another. Uh, and and like I said, you know, we're trying to uh get better individually, but but also within um, you know, offensive and defensive concepts that I think transfer over to the levels that those guys are currently playing at. I hope that answers the question.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Definitely. Definitely. Um, it's been it was the first uh meeting of you was really cool to see because um that was the first time I was in such a space like that. I've been in a lot of different spaces uh on during games at various uh levels of the but never like uh a training session with say that was Max's Max Struce's thing. So I was able to kind of learn learn and see how people do it there, and that's why I really wanted to have a conversation like this and continue these to I'm always trying to learn more, you know. I'm a podcast, I like to do podcast writing, but uh it's a lot of people pivot in different ways. I I've recently had someone that I followed who went from writing about all the G-League guys, and now he's a scout for the Mexico City capitons of the G-League, so it's like and then I have another friend who did this, and he's uh a trainer on the staff of the wizard, so it's the basketball can take you everywhere. The last yeah, the last one I have here is I want to know your um maybe starting five and six, six man, of guys you've worked with, you know, um obviously not everyone's pros, and I don't want them to be pros, but the team of guys that you would line up together um in a game. Based on like their skill set that you like, you know, maybe you got a good guy who's who's got some size, maybe someone shoots really well, and then maybe one works for a great spark plug.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

You're saying of all the guys that I I've worked with?

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Yeah, um even the one maybe they're maybe they're uh still in high school and they would fit that line up, or the college kid, or any of the pros. They don't all have to be pros, just ones you would make this team of.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Oh man, that's a tough question, actually.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

I know you got what I like, you have a lot of great players and a lot of great people. And for if any of them ever get to listen, I don't want no hard feelings to those guys. But this is a movable team, things change, and all those guys one day might like tomorrow they probably would be on here. But today's these are the guys.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

I'm gonna I'm gonna make this question uh somewhat my own X and kind of manipulate it a little bit here because I'll accept that if uh an agent, I won't say his name, he recently texted me um, you know, saying, and again, I I hope this doesn't come across as me like being braggadocious about myself. It's not it's not about me or anything like that, it's about the players uh that I'm fortunate to work with. But he texted me recently and he said, uh, you know, if we if we put all of your college guys onto one team, it would be the favorite to win the national title. And I kind of sat there, I mean, he literally texted me at like midnight the other night. And I was sitting there thinking about it, I'm like, this guy might actually you know he might actually be right. Um so again, I don't know. I mean, it it it would obviously be a tall order, but if we go if we go with that, and again, you know, our bench would be elite. So um I know that you asked for the s the starters and maybe the sixth man, so we'll we'll go with that for right now. But our bench would be one of the best in the country, I think. Uh but my starting five, uh again, I hopefully I don't know, maybe hopefully the guys listen to this, but hopefully they don't too, so they don't think that I'm hating on them or anything like that. But our starting five, I think, right now would be point guard Jeremy Fears at Michigan State.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

Oh, I didn't know he was one of your one of the guys.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

The two would be John Pulakitas, who's having an unbelievable year at Yale.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

John P a great shooter.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Johnny P, one of the most efficient players in the entire country. Uh our three, this is where it gets tough. R three, I think, would have to be Brooks Barnizer at Northwestern, who's just an absolute animal.

unknown 29:04

You know, unfortunately, and I say that obviously because uh unfortunately his season uh came to an end uh with a foot injury.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

So, you know, um, but before that he was he was having a big time here. Kind of can do a little bit of everything. And then our four or five would be Danny Wolf at Michigan and Braden Huff at Gonzaga. So we've got size, we've got IQ, we've got shooting. Uh the shooting off the bench would be insane. I think our sixth man would be either Bobby Durkin at Davidson or Cam Kraft, uh, who's at Miami.

unknown 29:43

Both of those guys are 6'5 or plus. I think Bobby's actually more like 6'7.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

They're both shooting 43 plus from three on on uh you know good volume. Uh and then we got other we've got other good players that would certainly be in the mix. I mean, if I was coaching that team, the the the only problem we would have probably there's three things, right? There's there's maybe rim protection. You know, I love Brayden and Danny, but you know, people don't really think of them as elite rim protectors, although Danny I do think is a little underrated there uh at the college level at least. And then uh we probably have a little bit of a hard time guarding people, uh, although Brooks and Caden Pierce uh and Jeremy Fears are all, I don't want to discredit them, they're all uh really good individual defenders. Uh, but maybe people would look at a group of uh mostly white guys that say, like, okay, these guys can't guard. And then the third problem I would have is just getting a rotation together where I could play everybody, because like I said, we'd be loaded, man. It would be uh a fun group to coach. And I mean, I again I I am fortunate in a way to to coach those guys uh when they're home during the summer.

unknown 30:49

So that's the way that I'll answer it.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Uh it might get tricky if I uh was to talk about the pro guys.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Definitely. Um definitely no that I I I like as an answer. You know, sometimes you I I lay something out and I I'm uh I'm open to how people interpret this, and I like this because I kind of get into follow you. I see some of these guys and who you work with, but some of them I missed. So I didn't know some of these are the people of your uh arsenal and guys you get to get to uh help improve. So that was really cool. And I just want to say thanks again for uh chatting with me. I'm excited for what's next for you you as well as these kids and then uh to be out there with you on the on the corpse soon.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Yeah, man, you're always welcome. I appreciate uh your time and just the opportunity to hop on with you, man. Keep doing what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 31:39

Thanks again to Zack for chatting with me. I love hoops and I love getting to know about the various spaces one can exist in the game of basketball. Zach's found his lane and is thriving. I'm always excited to see what he is up to, and you can too. Follow ZBoaster on Instagram or Zdboaster on X. Also, to stay up to date, follow me or the Extra Time Podcast across all MOS social media. Once again, I'm your host, Xavier Sanchez, and thank you for listening to the Extra Time Podcast.